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  The Worst Thing You Ever Did As A Jehovah's Witness

  by minimus in

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  what's the worst thing you did as a jw?.......for me, it was to help other persons come to love the "organization".

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  Ben There

  Was an elder and a district convention overseer influencing people to give their lives over to the wt god. Sitting in judgement over other people who were not any worse than the sleaze I represented. Making the wt rich by designing and building their damn kingdom halls and assembly halls on the backs of unassuming people I convinced were god's chosen
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  Hello to all my old friends, enemies, and concubines

  by Mindchild in

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  by-the-bye, what became of your posting in jwd?

  said the cat.

  id nearly forgotten to ask.

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  Ben There

  huh??
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  Younger generation lnot reaching out and quitting the truth

  by truthseeker in

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  i was recently reading some old posts, when i came acoss one of maximus' posts about children leaving the truth.. link is here for anyone who wants to read it... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/10417/1.ashx .

  it has been roughly two years since the last post on this.

  any ideas as to the percentage of children/young adults leaving?

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  Ben There

  The exodus was big in the late 80's and through the 90's til my escape. I feel a real guilt for the false hope I gave to so many young people and women who were sticking it out in pure misery. I do agree as the old comic figure Uncle Scrooge who took out his same old lucky dime, look for the sect to "set another date" and rely on the "double speak" memories of those whose lives have been emptied out by the Watchtower and a natural flow of people looking for answers.....but in the wrong places.

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  What was Fullfilled in 1975?

  by refiners fire in

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  as we all know, the lord jehovah causes expectation to arise regarding certain dates.

  these expectations have usually resulted in the members of the organization, erroneously, expecting the apocalypse to arrive on those dates.

  1914 was such a year.

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  Ben There

  Red Witch I feel as you. What a deception to control the "herd." Sacrificing children is standard proceedure in cult based religions.

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  Why WTS Leaders Should Be Disfellowshipped

  by metatron in

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  the "pay attention" elders manual gives us clear advice.

  on judging repentance in cases of serious sin.. first, as to the nature of the sin, watchtower leaders.

  are guilty of loose conduct - defined as "wanton.

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  Ben There

  is the chat room broken? how can they be df'ed from what they control they don't know god. They concentrate on the poison drink of the Jones just please drink a liittle slower....enjoy the death of supporting an org about themselves and their glory
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  Women's Issues

  by Joyzabel in

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  sorry i had to post this under friends, there is no fluff topic yet!

  women's issues.

  q: should i have a baby after 35?.

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  Ben There

  joy'

  after those words of pure wisdom pass me a double''''''

  Your friend
  
  Ben There
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  Sister Who died Refusing Blood

  by silentlambs in

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  i normally do not comment on this type of subject, yet i have just been informed there may be child abuse involved for her two children at the hands of a fellow jw.

  i will investigate to find the facts, yet if this were true this family has lost much in the "spiritual paradise.

  " when i have more information i will clarify.

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  Ben There

  gumby's comments are very important to consider. I really do not understand the comments of 'reformist' thinking individuals. Please tell me what is to reform? If they can't show the humility ...they demand of others where do you start reforming? By their own words confession and a turning away from what is bad is essential at hte beginning of a conversion and reforming from a former course of conduct.....being sorry .....admitting your sorry....and accepting responsibilites is first and formost. Thousands of lives have been adversely effected and many needless deaths probably many more than the arab murderers of 9-11

  I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE A JUST GOD ALLOWING NEEDLESS DEATH BECAUSE HE HELD THE LIGHT OF THE "truth" BACK WHILE SO MANY DIED
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  question about racial demographics

  by Iris10401 in

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  hello...i hope this is the proper place to pose my question.. i've been meeting with a fine jw couple for several months now and i have attended meetings with them twice at the kingdom hall.

  a large segment of the congregation were people of color and it also seems that whenever i meet a jw on the street, they are more often than not african-american.

  i was wondering if there was some explanation for this, or is just coincidence?

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  Ben There

  Crownboy...

  your comments about the "appeal" makes alot of sense. It is common of
  any org such as wt to promise something people perceive they can't get
  to some degree by any other means. This approach has hooked many over the years into not pursuing any number of acheivable goals....it is very sad...to see people not become what they could be due to wt control. It is very similiar as to how orgs make people victims to such a degree they donot even investigate their potential.

  This goes for race, current level in society, looks, family raising,
  etc.

  As far racism....I was an elder many years...both black and white congs in two countries and although not perceivable to average jw it was alive and well in the circle of elders and above. Sadly it was also very apparent in the jealousy between groups of elders and worse at Bethel. Climbing 'in the ranks' so to speak the exposure to the inner workings of the wt showed the true arrogance and ego all the way to the top.

  I trully feel bad about the many times we squeezed confessions of personal choice from people.....made 'em fess up while the wt contined
  in misleading people about everything from doctrines, to finance, needless self sacrifice, promise of the big house,and so on.
  I tell you when you give so much of your life to something only to find its true motives, ever changing doctrines, different 'truths' in different countries, and the pure abandonment of loyal sacrificing people you know God cannot associate with these arrogant, self serving men.
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  Gender discrimination?

  by teejay in

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  sixty minutes covered this story a month ago and meet the press brought it up again this morning when rumsfeld was interviewed.... when stationing troops in foreign countries, the u.s. military tries to abide by the rules of the country.

  in saudi arabia, the custom for women in public is that they wear an abaya, a floor-length, long-sleeve, loose-fitting garment that covers everything but the face.

  air force lt. col. martha mcsally filed a lawsuit against the pentagon, arguing that the policy was discriminatory because men are not required to dress in traditional muslim garments.. when interviewed on sixty minutes, mcsally was so offended by the garment that she would not put it on just to demonstrate what it looked like.

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  Ben There

  there is everything wrong with Saudi society....its dirty filled with disgustng men who treat women in the most disgusting manner. But get real that is how it is!!!!!!IT IS very wrong. The reality is we are not the world and to demand our JUST rights in a very unjust org (get the similarities to the BORG?) doesn't fly.
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  Gender discrimination?

  by teejay in

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  sixty minutes covered this story a month ago and meet the press brought it up again this morning when rumsfeld was interviewed.... when stationing troops in foreign countries, the u.s. military tries to abide by the rules of the country.

  in saudi arabia, the custom for women in public is that they wear an abaya, a floor-length, long-sleeve, loose-fitting garment that covers everything but the face.

  air force lt. col. martha mcsally filed a lawsuit against the pentagon, arguing that the policy was discriminatory because men are not required to dress in traditional muslim garments.. when interviewed on sixty minutes, mcsally was so offended by the garment that she would not put it on just to demonstrate what it looked like.

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  Ben There

  Saudi society like JW is very similar....that is how it is.....
  but under the circumstances personal rights in that dirty society is
  a pretty silly way to scream about the situation ..if you don't like it get out